Paul,
From working with your techniques my natural shot is mostly straight or a draw . I experience this mostly with driver and hybrids. My “misses” are hooks or duck-hooks. Remember I don’t setup for a draw. I stand square to the target line and a neutral grip.
Should I now stand open a bit with club face aimed at target to get the fade?
Paul I know that you have just recently responded to me on this topic. I do understand the concept of a fade by aligning yourself to the left whilst aiming the clubface down the centre and swinging down the line of your body.
I know also what you tell us about the true draw by aiming straight,strengthening your grip and sliding to get a greater tilt thus resulting in a draw which you say is a much more difficult shot to master which it most certainly is.
What is so wrong with a “fake” draw where you would simply be doing the opposite of a fade by aligning your body slightly right with the clubface facing down the centre and swinging down your body line with no need to alter grip or slide.In other words,simply do the opposite set up to a fade in order to get a controlled draw.
You can do the fake draw going around a tree etc. It is just very difficult to make it move left the same amount every time. Plus, doing this the face is already closed to your body. Overdo it by a few degrees and you will smother hook it out of bounds. If you don’t roll it over you blow it way right out of bounds. You can try it. I did a tip on it but it is mainly used for tricky situation where you have to go around a try etc. No tour pro hits this shot.
Have changed my thinking in the ‘tough decision’ times to favor the fade… Has resulted in better scoring averages. 🙂 Can’t say I’m a perfect at this as I still tend to get more fade than I want from time to time (bad habits still when I try to fade sometimes creep back in), but as long as the lesser problem remains in that direction, has brought my ‘blowup’ hole damages waaaay down.
There is a particular hole I play regularly where I switched to fading (as I’ve hit OB so many times) and I am sure the folks who live in the houses on the left edge are appreciating me not waking them up anymore with the line drives into the porch and roof. :p
Exactly. Glad you went to it. As you are seeing this shot reduces your scores and reduces frustration.
I remember those days of hitting way left well. It was so bad I when I was drawing it I couldn’t play courses with trees on the right side just off the tee. Not fun.
I you find yourself over fading just do a few roll overs to unlock the wrists a little. Here is the drill:
Hi Paul,
What you say about the fade makes a lot of sense. Do you recommend applying the same approach to general play around the fairways, ie fairway woods and long/mid irons or is it something you tend to do more off the tee?
Thanks
Brett
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8 Responses to “Advanced – More Room For Error With A Fade”
November 14, 2017
TomPaternaPaul,
From working with your techniques my natural shot is mostly straight or a draw . I experience this mostly with driver and hybrids. My “misses” are hooks or duck-hooks. Remember I don’t setup for a draw. I stand square to the target line and a neutral grip.
Should I now stand open a bit with club face aimed at target to get the fade?
Thanks,
Tom
btw I almost never slice now.
November 15, 2017
Paul WilsonTom,
Yes, you need to fade it this way. Give it a try. It should work for you.
Good job on fixing the slice. So much more fun when you don’t slice.
November 15, 2017
daviddonaldsonPaul I know that you have just recently responded to me on this topic. I do understand the concept of a fade by aligning yourself to the left whilst aiming the clubface down the centre and swinging down the line of your body.
I know also what you tell us about the true draw by aiming straight,strengthening your grip and sliding to get a greater tilt thus resulting in a draw which you say is a much more difficult shot to master which it most certainly is.
What is so wrong with a “fake” draw where you would simply be doing the opposite of a fade by aligning your body slightly right with the clubface facing down the centre and swinging down your body line with no need to alter grip or slide.In other words,simply do the opposite set up to a fade in order to get a controlled draw.
Regards
David D.
November 15, 2017
Paul WilsonDavid,
You can do the fake draw going around a tree etc. It is just very difficult to make it move left the same amount every time. Plus, doing this the face is already closed to your body. Overdo it by a few degrees and you will smother hook it out of bounds. If you don’t roll it over you blow it way right out of bounds. You can try it. I did a tip on it but it is mainly used for tricky situation where you have to go around a try etc. No tour pro hits this shot.
The Fake Draw: https://ignitiongolf.com/the-fake-draw/
How To Perfect Drawing and Fading: https://ignitiongolf.com/perfect-drawing-and-fading/
The second tip will clarify the fade.
November 15, 2017
KimBozikPaul,
Have changed my thinking in the ‘tough decision’ times to favor the fade… Has resulted in better scoring averages. 🙂 Can’t say I’m a perfect at this as I still tend to get more fade than I want from time to time (bad habits still when I try to fade sometimes creep back in), but as long as the lesser problem remains in that direction, has brought my ‘blowup’ hole damages waaaay down.
There is a particular hole I play regularly where I switched to fading (as I’ve hit OB so many times) and I am sure the folks who live in the houses on the left edge are appreciating me not waking them up anymore with the line drives into the porch and roof. :p
Kim
November 15, 2017
Paul WilsonKim,
Exactly. Glad you went to it. As you are seeing this shot reduces your scores and reduces frustration.
I remember those days of hitting way left well. It was so bad I when I was drawing it I couldn’t play courses with trees on the right side just off the tee. Not fun.
I you find yourself over fading just do a few roll overs to unlock the wrists a little. Here is the drill:
Modified Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/modified-roll-over-drill/
November 16, 2017
BrettReidHi Paul,
What you say about the fade makes a lot of sense. Do you recommend applying the same approach to general play around the fairways, ie fairway woods and long/mid irons or is it something you tend to do more off the tee?
Thanks
Brett
November 16, 2017
Paul WilsonBrett,
This is with all shots. Going to be kind of hard to fade a high lofted club so you start squaring up around 8 iron or less.