In the taller set up, we want to feel weight in the arch to the heel of the feet correct? I have been told at set up you should be able to wiggle your toes? Trying that, I get some great contact, but then also get caught to sitting back too much on my heels, pushing the ball to the right. I have been told by my “pro” I analyze my swing too much, need to stop thinking, I am sure you would agree. Keep you tips coming Paul, I do see much improvement with my consistency in hits. Looking forward to your fall schedule, hope to make your class
I want you to feel the weight on your laces. You would be able to wiggle your toes doing it this way because the weight in in the middle of your feet. You also could raise your heels so this gets you the balance point in the middle of your feet.
Make this simple. I made it complicated many years ago. It got me nowhere. Once I made it simple I got my swing back.
Greetings Coach Thanks for the feedback .I like the 1-2-3 i am going to use it as my trigger saying it out loud at first to get used to it ,the 3 count i will associate it with “turn the buckle” I will let you know how it is working after a round or two .Please respond if you think this makes no sense THANKS
Paul,
I’ve been working really hard with all parts of the swing. During a round of golf last week I really made a point of getting the set up correct to make a great swing.. The swing was perfect and so was the shot, 7 iron 174 yard on a par 3 for my first Hole in One after playing for 45 years… This swing is amazing, strokes are dropping every time I play..
Excellent! I love hearing this. It can get exciting so if you start slicing, topping, hitting it thin immediately slow down and build it back up again.
I have a question about hand position in the set up. Historically, I have always placed my hands a bit forward (perhaps thinking this would enhance shaft lean) maintaining a straight line from my left shoulder down to the clubhead. This formed a lowercase Y shape. I notice you place your hands in the middle of your body forming an uppercase Y. Prior to beginning your swing, you then raise your head and chin up (into an almost military-like position) insuring that a line perpendicular to your chest points well outside the ball. This seems to be like a forward press for you – i.e., your first motion signaling the beginning of the swing so it doesn’t start cold from a static position.
Yesterday at the range I had my best session ever since learning your swing principles. I tried moving my hands back like yours forming an uppercase Y. I immediately felt a relaxation in my wrists and my transition included better separation that led to a 5-8 increase in my swing speed on the SC200 launch monitor. I was an incredibly sweet feel and sensation. Totally effortless.
I realize now my old hands-forward position created at least four flaws: (1) forcing an overly strong grip; (2) incorrect left wrist bend that would have to be corrected later in the swing; (3) wrist tension and tightness; and (4) inability to waggle in a manner that loosened the wrists and reduced tension.
Am I correct that your hand position is no accident and that you prefer the hands right in the middle of the stance to begin the swing – forming an uppercase Y? For me it seemed to greatly loosen my wrists and help turn off my arms. Would we benefit from adopting a similar routine as yours to begin our swings?
Could you comment on the importance of your initial hand position and swing start routine, and perhaps do a tip on it or refer us to a tip where you have covered this?
Glad you made a breakthrough. My hands are in the position because I don’t want to knock the ball off the tee or touch the ball when it’s on the ground. Because of this I have my clubhead a little away from the ball. Just a habit now. Moving your hands back did fix those 4 things though so I like the fact that you tried it and felt your arms relax.
I explain that I like the hands even with the ball not ahead of the ball. It’s mainly so people can do the proper grip.
Seeing that much of a difference on the swing caddie would tell me that you need to keep doing it. This has made a dramatic difference in your swing. Good job.
Thanks much for the video links you sent. They completely address my question. As in all your videos, you give us the what AND why of what you teach. I apparently was among the masses that thought the hands forward position was correct. This likely explains why I have a tendency to get strong with my grip and hold off the release. When I do go through I sometimes get a massive hook.
I highly recommend my fellow Ignition Golfers view these two videos and use the opportunity to re-check their own hand positions. Things like hand position are easy to forget when we are all focusing hard on loosening the wrists, touching the legs, touching the head, etc. This is a good revisit of a core swing fundamental.
I should have known you previously covered this issue. The Ignition Golf video library is incredibly complete.
Yes, this will certainly give you a strong grip which is not good because you cannot have loose wrists with a strong grip. If you do you will hook every shot.
Yes, everyone should always be checking every set up element and position regularly.
I’m enjoying following your lessons, tips and videos – especially while we’re in lockdown here in the UK and I can’t get out onto the golf course! It seems like a good time to really improve my swing, and your process and swing tips look the best around. It all makes a lot of sense to me, and I like the way you communicate it, in simple steps thoroughly explained.
I’m very tall (about 6ft 6ins). Are there any tips that you’d suggest, relating to the set up, stance width, or swing that someone of my height should think about differently from an average height player?
There really is not going to be too much change for the height, you would need to look into longer golf clubs or clubs that fit your body and length of arms. You can check out these tips to get the setup:
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13 Responses to “What To Expect Series – Set Up”
May 31, 2015
AnthonyAdairHey Paul,
In the taller set up, we want to feel weight in the arch to the heel of the feet correct? I have been told at set up you should be able to wiggle your toes? Trying that, I get some great contact, but then also get caught to sitting back too much on my heels, pushing the ball to the right. I have been told by my “pro” I analyze my swing too much, need to stop thinking, I am sure you would agree. Keep you tips coming Paul, I do see much improvement with my consistency in hits. Looking forward to your fall schedule, hope to make your class
Tony
June 1, 2015
Paul WilsonTony,
I want you to feel the weight on your laces. You would be able to wiggle your toes doing it this way because the weight in in the middle of your feet. You also could raise your heels so this gets you the balance point in the middle of your feet.
Make this simple. I made it complicated many years ago. It got me nowhere. Once I made it simple I got my swing back.
June 2, 2015
AnthonyAdairHey Paul,
Thanks for your feedback, it really does help my a lot. One day I hope to work with you in person.
Tony
May 31, 2015
johnhoyleGreetings Coach Thanks for the feedback .I like the 1-2-3 i am going to use it as my trigger saying it out loud at first to get used to it ,the 3 count i will associate it with “turn the buckle” I will let you know how it is working after a round or two .Please respond if you think this makes no sense THANKS
June 1, 2015
Paul WilsonJohn,
Very good. I like people saying it to themselves. This way they may actually do it.
May 31, 2015
JodePowellPaul,
I’ve been working really hard with all parts of the swing. During a round of golf last week I really made a point of getting the set up correct to make a great swing.. The swing was perfect and so was the shot, 7 iron 174 yard on a par 3 for my first Hole in One after playing for 45 years… This swing is amazing, strokes are dropping every time I play..
June 1, 2015
Paul WilsonJode,
Excellent! I love hearing this. It can get exciting so if you start slicing, topping, hitting it thin immediately slow down and build it back up again.
Watch:
You Will Top It: https://ignitiongolf.com/you-will-top-it/
August 11, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
I have a question about hand position in the set up. Historically, I have always placed my hands a bit forward (perhaps thinking this would enhance shaft lean) maintaining a straight line from my left shoulder down to the clubhead. This formed a lowercase Y shape. I notice you place your hands in the middle of your body forming an uppercase Y. Prior to beginning your swing, you then raise your head and chin up (into an almost military-like position) insuring that a line perpendicular to your chest points well outside the ball. This seems to be like a forward press for you – i.e., your first motion signaling the beginning of the swing so it doesn’t start cold from a static position.
Yesterday at the range I had my best session ever since learning your swing principles. I tried moving my hands back like yours forming an uppercase Y. I immediately felt a relaxation in my wrists and my transition included better separation that led to a 5-8 increase in my swing speed on the SC200 launch monitor. I was an incredibly sweet feel and sensation. Totally effortless.
I realize now my old hands-forward position created at least four flaws: (1) forcing an overly strong grip; (2) incorrect left wrist bend that would have to be corrected later in the swing; (3) wrist tension and tightness; and (4) inability to waggle in a manner that loosened the wrists and reduced tension.
Am I correct that your hand position is no accident and that you prefer the hands right in the middle of the stance to begin the swing – forming an uppercase Y? For me it seemed to greatly loosen my wrists and help turn off my arms. Would we benefit from adopting a similar routine as yours to begin our swings?
Could you comment on the importance of your initial hand position and swing start routine, and perhaps do a tip on it or refer us to a tip where you have covered this?
Thanks for all you do for us!
Mike Barrett
Pasco WA
August 13, 2018
Paul WilsonMike,
Glad you made a breakthrough. My hands are in the position because I don’t want to knock the ball off the tee or touch the ball when it’s on the ground. Because of this I have my clubhead a little away from the ball. Just a habit now. Moving your hands back did fix those 4 things though so I like the fact that you tried it and felt your arms relax.
I explain that I like the hands even with the ball not ahead of the ball. It’s mainly so people can do the proper grip.
I have a tip on hand position here:
Hand Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/hand-position-at-address
Cause and Effect – Hand Position at Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/cause-and-effect-hand-position/
Seeing that much of a difference on the swing caddie would tell me that you need to keep doing it. This has made a dramatic difference in your swing. Good job.
August 15, 2018
MichaelBarrettPaul,
Thanks much for the video links you sent. They completely address my question. As in all your videos, you give us the what AND why of what you teach. I apparently was among the masses that thought the hands forward position was correct. This likely explains why I have a tendency to get strong with my grip and hold off the release. When I do go through I sometimes get a massive hook.
I highly recommend my fellow Ignition Golfers view these two videos and use the opportunity to re-check their own hand positions. Things like hand position are easy to forget when we are all focusing hard on loosening the wrists, touching the legs, touching the head, etc. This is a good revisit of a core swing fundamental.
I should have known you previously covered this issue. The Ignition Golf video library is incredibly complete.
Thanks again Paul!
Mike
August 16, 2018
Paul WilsonMike,
Yes, this will certainly give you a strong grip which is not good because you cannot have loose wrists with a strong grip. If you do you will hook every shot.
Yes, everyone should always be checking every set up element and position regularly.
Here is another one that may help:
Setup – How Your Grip and Setup Can Get You Shut: https://ignitiongolf.com/grip-setup-shut-top-backswing/
March 20, 2021
paulwmHi Paul,
I’m enjoying following your lessons, tips and videos – especially while we’re in lockdown here in the UK and I can’t get out onto the golf course! It seems like a good time to really improve my swing, and your process and swing tips look the best around. It all makes a lot of sense to me, and I like the way you communicate it, in simple steps thoroughly explained.
I’m very tall (about 6ft 6ins). Are there any tips that you’d suggest, relating to the set up, stance width, or swing that someone of my height should think about differently from an average height player?
Thanks,
Paul.
April 2, 2021
Paul WilsonThere really is not going to be too much change for the height, you would need to look into longer golf clubs or clubs that fit your body and length of arms. You can check out these tips to get the setup:
Width of Stance: https://ignitiongolf.com/width-of-stance
Easy Way to Check Width of Stance: https://ignitiongolf.com/easy-check-width-stance/
Sit On The Edge Of A Bar Stool To Set Up: https://ignitiongolf.com/setup-edge-of-bar-stool/
Taller Setup: https://ignitiongolf.com/bartender-setup/
Stand Tall with Short Clubs: https://ignitiongolf.com/stand-tall-short-clubs/