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Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine.
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July 30, 2012
Hi Paul, I can turn my hands and arms off, but it feels like I turn off my hip turn as well. It seems that’s not right. Should I just concentrate on turning off hands and arms for now, and if hip turn turns off, just keep working on it?
Yes, keep trying to hit shots with the arms turned off. Get used to it. Then gradually increase only the rotational speed of your body.
playing and practicing….If you are trying to improve with your method, how do you integrate the drill as practice and still play? Should you just work on the drill, even though its not “integrated” yet
Dom, you are going to do this drill when on the range. When you go to the course you are going to swing no harder than about 80% if you are a better player and 50% if you are a poorer player. This way you will tone it down on the course as well.
Paul, I am surprised you did not mention when practicing this drill uncoil from the bottom not just swing with the arms. I have been following your Swing Machine Golf for over a year now. I have stopped reading the golf magazines with all the “experts” giving different methods of swing the golf club. I now have only one teacher. You’re the man. Keep it up.
Peter, I may have forgotten. I think I was just totally into getting this tip done. I did it in a past tip but wanted a standalone tip to send people who are having problems taking the arms out of the swing.
Thank you for your support. I truly appreciate it.
July 31, 2012
You often use the analogy of twirling a weight on a string. I was practicing the other day, and got to wondering where you think the precise center of swing should be?
I’m working very hard on your technique, and am getting better at turning off the arms, but I still manage to get over the top a bit, especially under pressure. As I initiate the downswing with the proper lower body motion, I’m trying to lock into a feeling for the upper body. Even with a good lower body turn and passive arms, I still manage to do different things with my torso to mess it up.
Hence the question on what is the epicenter of a good swing? Hope this makes sense.
August 2, 2012
Jay, I am not seeing your body as flat. I am seeing your body as a cylinder or circular. Just imagine a big tube overtop of your body. The center would be the center of the tube. The spine would be off center to the one edge of the tube.
I think you really have to see the coil and uncoil. You are good enough. You just have to get the move to repeat. Coiling and uncoiling repeats. As you keep focusing on this your arms will keep relaxing because you are never trying to hit anything.
So coil back with a stable lower body. Feel the stretch in the left side. Once you feel the stretch … uncoil.
August 27, 2012
In doing this drill are we concentrating on just hitting easy ,will we automatically use lower body or do we do both swing easy and try physically to start lower body first .
August 28, 2012
This drill will get the arms and any hitting out of your golf swing. You cannot hit it hard and keep it short of your actual distance. If you feel you are using your arms then do this drill constantly until you are good it it. I can do it instantly on the very first ball will all clubs including driver. If you can do this you do not have to work on this drill anymore.
You are not even thinking body here. You are thinking to hit it easy. If you turn your arms off completely you will have to use your body because you have no other way to hit it.
May 31, 2013
Paul, thanks for recommending me this tip. I already started practising with very good results. Hitting nice and easy is the key to get great results.
June 1, 2013
Glad you liked it and tried it. Most people cannot do this drill. If you can do it you are on your way to taking the arms out. Keep doing it and keep letting the arms relax. Then once you are good at it turn only the lower body a little faster to get more power. Then do it again and you will be at top speed.
August 30, 2013
Paul, I purchased your Swing Machine Golf book in April. I worked through every chapter with good results but still have a lot of work to do. I have been an ‘arm swinger’ for 10 years so this drill is certainly a challenge. I just started it last week and already having moderate success hitting my 7 iron 100 yards. However, could you please clarify something for me? I am rotating my lower body but I still feel like I’m still ‘swinging my arms’, I’m just swinging them slower/easier. Is this acceptable or should I feel nothing in my arms? Again, I just started the drill last week. Thanks for everything, Paul…you’ve made a huge difference in my swing and I quit listening to other instructors.
August 31, 2013
If you are at the stage where you have worked on my positions and you feel like you are trying to put it all together you need the arms powerless. This does not mean they are flopping all over the place. It means you are not trying to hit or help the shot in any way with your arms. They are connected to your body. They will move when you uncoil.
If you are only hitting your 7 iron 100 yards there is work to do. I would be doing my swing positions every night in a mirror making sure they are perfect. Start with grip, setup and follow through. Stick to this for quite a while until you are good at it. These positions alone should have you hitting it better than you even have in your life. Get used to them. The start working on coiling and hinging into the backswing until they are perfect too. At this stage it is about about swinging from point A to point B with powerless arms. Stick with it. It seems like you want to get better. With a little effort you will make some important changes to your swing that will allow you to hit some great shots. Once you see them you will never want to stop seeing them.
September 2, 2013
Paul, thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Just FYI, I can hit my 7 iron 140 to 150 yds using my arms. I am trying to hit it only 100 yards like in your drill by taking my arms out of the swing and using only a slow rotation of my hips. I am getting much better at that. Anyway, you answered my question. I can’t feel like I’m just ‘hitting he ball easier with my arms’ in this drill. Got to rotate the lower body slower for a smooth, easy, no arms swing. Thanks again, Paul.
Okay this is good you are just trying to hit it 2/3 of your normal 7 iron. Stick to this until it does not feel like it is difficult to do. If you told me to do it I can do it on the first ball. I don’t have to try it 5 times before I can do it. Once you are at this level you are then in control of your swing so gradually start to turn faster. Get used to it then go faster again. When you do you should be hitting it farther than your old shots.
September 28, 2013
HEY HEY PAUL,THAT ADVICE IS ALL VERY WELL AND GOOD,BUT WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND TO STOP A DOWNSWING,POST IMPACT SWAYING-(NOT TURNING) RATHER THAN ON THE BACKSWING?? IN OTHER WORDS,BY PUSHING OFF MY RIGHT BIG TOE AND FOOT DURING THE DOWNSWING,I FIND THAT I SWAY,NOT TURN,AND MY HEAD MOVES PAST THE BALL AND LEAD (LEFT ) LEG…SUGGESTIONS,OTHER THAN USING A GUILLOTINE TO REMOVE MY HEAD-HAHA
September 29, 2013
If you are moving left and ahead of the ball when pushing from the back instep you are not doing it right. It’s not a lateral motion. It is a turn. Just pick up a ball and throw it overhand. I guarantee you will not move too much laterally if you do this. You will feel the weight on the back instep and you will use this weight to turn your body. So do this throwing motion a few times and get used to it (with a 7 iron stance). Then apply it to your shots. If you still cannot do this maybe you should think about a different downswing trigger.
September 30, 2013
Hello Paul, Thanks for fixing the glitch. I have practised the above tip this morning and hit about 150 balls with my 7 iron. Normal distance is about 140/50yds and I had a practice green at 100yds away and did the easy swing. The feeling from the beginning was SO good and easy and hit the green right away. I felt I could hit balls like this all day. Like you say you won’t want to hit balls any other way. I’m just afraid it won’t happen again tomorrow. I was aware of my backswing using the connected tip to the wrist hinge and then I was not conscious of the downswing, only finishing with my weight on my left side and the club parallel with my ears and the ball going straight to the small green. I reckon 2/3rds of the balls landed on the green and a few to each side. Do you think this can continue? Thank you so much for your teaching ability.
Regards Barry Hooper
Just always start off hitting your shots slow and easy gradually building up to top speed with the body rotation. This is how you don’t lose it because you wil always be remembering that effortless feeling.
October 2, 2013
thanks for all the tips. I have back problems and am 67. I recently retired and started to play golf on a regular basis and took some lessons on stack and tilt and it didn’t work and I started using your approach and feel much better. I’m still trying to learn the concept of passive arms but I hit pushes and sometimes slices-club face is open . I have looked at your videos on cures and will contine to practice those tips. However it seems that when I rotate, my arms and hands stay behind, hence the open club face. I have tried to roll my wrists earlier but then that get’s me thinking about my hands and arms again and thet don’t remain passive. Are there any additional drills to focus on? I certainly am doing much better with your approach and will continue to practice. Thanks Bob
When you do the roll over drill you will feel your arms. This is a drill. It is designed to get you manually rolling the clubface closed so you no longer leave it open. Once you do this enough times you then train this to occur without thinking of it. At this point you can turn them back off and they will still roll. This may take a few shots, a few buckets, days or weeks. For people taking weeks I would think they are doing it wrong because this should not take that long at all.
Getting ahead of it like this is telling me you are trying to drive the hips hard which is fine but if you take this approach you are going to have to do the roll over drill and hit lots of hooks. This will catch the arms back up to the speed the body is rotating at. This will allow you to keep the power you are swinging at instead of having to slow down your rotation and build it up slowly.
So, keep driving the legs as fast as you are. This is not your main thought though. Your main thought is to roll the wrists right from the top of the backswing. As you do this you will feel your arms but more importantly feel what this rolling feels like. I would also be doing this at home at night and even when you play knowing that I need repetitions of the movement to make it stick.
Now, after you are getting is consistently hooking. I am talking 99.9% of your shots with hook spin you are ready to make the switch to the legs. So, you switch the thought. You relax the arms and focus on starting the downswing with the legs. As you hit your first shot you watch it. If it goes left you need the legs to start sooner (more legs). If the ball pushes or push fades you drove them to hard or you have not rolled it enough that you are used to the feeling. So on the next shot you still drive the legs but not quite as hard. Watch your next shot. If one still goes right immediately go back to rolling it. I say this because I need you to stop hitting this shot out to the right. So hook about 5 more shots then try again. So right now it will be back and forth between them until you have this wrist release mastered. I get the impression you are close because it is so rare when someone is getting the lower body too far ahead of the arms. Get the release and you should hit it better than ever.
October 7, 2013
I love this one. I was alone on the course last night and played 9 nine holes this way. Great feeling !
October 8, 2013
This is a great drill. Everyone no matter how good or bad should do this from time to time. I hope you’re doing well.
November 5, 2013
I recently saw a tip/drill of yours which worked well for me. This concerned 2 thoughts where we focus on the club head going back and the belt buckle on the downswing. I need to freshen up on this but cannot now find the tip. Can you help or give the name of the tip so I can retrace it.Thanks
Here you go:
DRILL: Belt Buckle Clubhead: http://ignitiongolf.com/drill-belt-buckle-clubhead
December 31, 2013
One thing I have noticed and do not do is your own personal take-a-way during all of your lessons. What I see after you are set up and ready to do a complete swing you move all the clubs slightly back and sort of roll your wrists up and the club rises up. You then set up and swing away. I assume this is your way of taking taking feel out of your hands and arms but you do it so with such rhythm that I cannot see what you are doing with that warm up drill. Is there some way you can get my swing started with the same warm up drill.
Looks so smooth and great that I would like to simply copy that part of the swing while I work on the range doing other drills.
I am really just turning my body to take the club back. My arms are dead. Due to the momentum of the club swinging back it starts to go up. Just stay relaxed at set up. Keep the grip at 2 out of 10 and your arms at 0 out of 10. If you are too tight when you start you have no chance of keeping your arms out of the swing.
Are You Behind the 8 Ball?: http://ignitiongolf.com/8-ball/
March 29, 2014
Paul: I noticed that on the follow through your left arm bends pretty early on a slow swing but on a full out swing your arms stay straight almost to the top of the swing. Can you comment. Because I’ve been trying to bend the left arm early. Thanks.
March 30, 2014
Just received and reviewed the Pro vs am – extension tip which explains what I asked about “your arms stay straight”. You explained it well.
I replied with another tip too.
That’s because the faster I turn the more force is created thus my arms are pulled to their maximum. I did a tip on the bending of this arm here:
Three Quarters Through – Lead Arm Position: http://ignitiongolf.com/follow-through-lead-arm-bending/
September 6, 2014
Here’s a quick success story for you.
I played last week with a friend who’s been playing just a little longer than me. Before we started I told myself, I’m sick of having this slice when I try to hit it hard so I’m just going to swing easy and make them go straight.
Each time we teed off my friend would swing ad hard as he could and his ball would fly left off the tee and and the spin would bring it right back to the middle of the fairway.
I did as I said and didn’t even try to hit the ball. They flew straight and landed only about 5 to 10 yards short of his shots.
Halfway through the game he commented, “You’re not even trying to swing that hard are you?”
Nope, I said.
It was then I finally realized exactly what this technique is all about. I love it.
Thank you for all the great videos and advice!
September 7, 2014
Great story. I love hearing it.
Got to turn these no believers into believers.
You story is this tip:
DRILL: More In the Tank http://ignitiongolf.com/more-in-tank/
Now that you have experienced it keep swinging at this level. As you gain confidence you will be able to increase the body a little it to hit it by him by 10-30 yards. Then he will really be freaking out. Can’t wait.
Thanks Paul for the reminder. Its easy to start using arms again for sure. It sure looks like we use the arms doesnt it? I have days I feel a lot of control.
Just keep doing it. If you have felt it once you can do it again and again.
Anyone with a fast looking golf swing is using their arms. This is because your body doesn’t rotate that fast in life. If your body tells your arms how fast to swing then your swing would look slow.
How to Get Consistent Swing Tempo: http://ignitiongolf.com/consistent-swing-tempo/
I am using powerless arms but I am finding at times I am coming out of my shots and I cut or slice the ball most of the time I am swinging about 60 per cent
am I still swinging too hard?
If you are coming out of your shots you are not using powerless arms. You would come out of it because you are hitting. The harder you hit, the more you will look to see what you hit. If you are not trying to hit anything why would you look?
What you are feeling is you swinging a little easier but your easy is still way too hard.
The other tell-tale sign if that you are slicing it. To slice it you need the face open to the path. An open face means resistance because a hinge in ral life would hinge and re-hinge 100% of the time.
If you are slice you need to immediate stop doing that (I can’t believe you are still hiyting this shot as long as you have been a member). So immediately start doing these drills:
Please Learn How to Hook It: http://ignitiongolf.com/please-learn-hook/
How to Release the Golf Club: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-wrist-release
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: http://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Still Slicing Even After Rolling?: http://ignitiongolf.com/slicing-after-rolling/
Yes, you will feel your arms when you do them. These are drills. Once you get rid of the slice you gradually add lower body to straight it out.
Release Progression: http://ignitiongolf.com/release-progression/
So do the wrist and roll over drills at home, the range and when you play on a daily basis. This does not even take that long to get rid of it but you just have to commit to doing it as much as you can.
I’m wondering what your thoughts are on training with weighted clubs.
I guess you could still work on your hips and legs with the clubs, but wouldn’t
you actually happen to use hands and arms unconsciously if you suddenly switch
to normal clubs after training with weighted clubs?
I don’t like the full weighted club. I promote this one:
The concept is this … If your arms are powerless the club would feel heavy when you swung it. If you swing a heavy club all the time your clubs will feel light which is exactly the opposite to what you want to feel. So DO NOT swing a heavy club. Make your clubs feel heavy when you swing them.
Watch this too (golf starts at 4:32 of this video):
September 9, 2014
My one piece take away is good, my top of the back swing position is good, wrist hinge is good.When I start the downswing by turning my hips to the left (belt buckle)
I watched the club and for some reason I seem to be swinging left cutting across the ball!
Maybe I should think about Skype? How do I go about it
This would be you shifting immediately to the left in the downswing. If you tilt left you will swing left. Your whole upper body should be staying behind the ball.
I think everyone should be doing Skype lessons but so far very few people are taking advantage of this. This to me is just mind boggling why someone would want to struggle trying to learn this stuff if there is a way we can check it.
You can find out more about Skype lessons here:
I have quite a few videos on curing a pull. These can all be found using the red nav bar at the top of any page.
Pull 2 (expanding on it): http://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
Stop Coming Over the Top: http://ignitiongolf.com/cure-stop-over-the-top/
Remembering How Cure Pulled Shots: http://ignitiongolf.com/remembering-cure-pulled-shots/
Body Tilt – Left Right: http://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
I went to the range today determined to sort out my driver once and for all and I GOT IT! effortless swing legs turning properly I think previously Paul I was spinning out of shots . I wasn’t using my legs and hips properly that’s why everything was going left.
On the range I had ” the experts” telling me to “hit out, you are not hitting out”
What exactly does this mean?!
I ignored them and carried on with your teaching after 20 buckets I GOT IT
THANKS ALOT AGAIN
Great. If you turn your arms OFF you have to use your legs because you have no other way to hit the ball.
In just replying to your other comment then seeing this comment you certainly had work to do. The spin out would certainly be causing a pull. This would certainly be you swinging way too hard with your arms.
Hitting out is swinging to first base. The problem is they are giving you a band aid. Your body tilt (right or left) determines the path of the club. Tilt left you will swing it left. Tilt right and you will swing it right. So how do you swing out to first base? Answer: You tilt your body right in the downswing. Why does this happen” Answer: It happens because when you fire your lower body your whole upper body will hang back slightly into the downswing. It is like hitting the accelerator on a car. Fire the lower and your upper goes back. This creates the path. Plus keeping the arms turned off allows the mass to flatten to 90 degrees to the axis which means it will be swinging out at the ball in the downswing using simple physics (mass swinging around and axis). If you turn and axis mass will always want to swing at 90 degrees to it.
Flatten Plane 1: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane
Flatten Plane 2: http://ignitiongolf.com/downswing-flatten-plane-2
Keep ignoring them because they are not even explaining why or how you need to do this.
September 10, 2014
thanks a lot Paul
September 12, 2014
Just had brilliant rounds (two rounds in one windy day) with the driver and fairway woods yesterday. Irons not bad but not as amazing.
About 3 months since the last really good round but this time it felt much better in that I KNEW that my swing had changed. Even after the two rounds in the wind the whole of my upper body is sore-free and relaxed next day. Amazing.
The Skype lesson I had a few weeks ago was good in that I felt reassured that my swing change was moving towards right direction.
It all started to click for me after I fixed my stiff wrists through your hook drill enabling me to release properly. I could release before but not consciously. Now when ever there are any slice tendencies I can fix it immediately next shot. Amazing.
I need to loosen the wrists even more for extra distance but that is something I can work on later. It just feels so good to not worry about slices.
Next I worked on the pull problem which I first thought would be easy but fixing that proved to be very illuminating in that the feeling during downswing has changed completely. Keeping the head still through impact by keeping the weight on the right foot until impact makes me feel in control, simple and smooth unlike before when I felt out of control, complicated and jerky. I am making way less effort for much better consistency which was the aim of my swing change.
I am quite skeptical by nature and it feels good to be learning from a pro with whom I have nearly absolute(and growing) confidence in. Confidence that you know your stuff and more importantly you know the best known way to transmit that knowledge. Thanks.
ps: what should I work on next ?
Sounds like you are really moving in the right direction.
I would be more concerned with consistency and getting used to these changes right now as opposed to distance. You can be doing the legs drills and swinging off the ground at home in practice swings at night. This will get you used to more power gradually.
So, just keep refining your positions at a pace you can do them at. My one tip confidence breeds distance hold true. If you keep the ball in play will start to swing harder without realizing it. Just be patient right now. Positions and perfect movement are you thoughts.
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