Paul, my ams want to fall when I start this drill is that ok. THe only way I can stop my arms falling is y feeling by initiating it with my butt (lol) sorry for the crudeness. Is this a issue?
Your arms may come down a little when doing this. Just understand the concept. I want you starting the hips first. If your arms are all tight and locked up you will be hitting so they will both move together. Just turn them off and feel the belt buckle back to the ball. As you getting better at it you should be able to do it. Also, I am okay with the butt turn if it works. You just need this first 45 degrees.
I think I am coiling correctly and uncoiling my hips at the target properly. But I realize I may be fooling myself too my sawing speed with a driver has decreased from 86mph to 67mph in the past two-three years when I was stiff armed and flat footed. My distance has drooped from 240 to 190-200yds with the driver and from 175 to 135 with a seven iron. I’m 75 years old, 5′ 7″; 165 lbs but I have lost most of my muscle due to recent surgeries. Still, I think if I was rotating correctly I would not lose so much swing speed.
I could do nothing and get it to 67 mph. I could also do nothing and get it to 86 mph. So if I can do this I am doing it a different way. I am really using my legs and wrists are very loose. I would think you are not turning fast enough so you are not developing the whipping action of the club. If you were hitting it 240 you can do it again. It just take more effort in the legs. One of IG members at 81 was hitting it 256 and he was all of 5’5″ so it can be done. Just need to do it the right way.
I would get Pete to check your swing for you. Then he can get you on track. We are going to do a $20 analysis shortly. If you are interested just contact us. Then you won’t be guessing. Thanks.
Hey old dude, nothing wrong with those numbers in my book. At 78 and 5′ 9″ that’s where I am at. Best part is that you know your distances!! I too am working the body swing. Good luck.
Paul,You showed us this drill a long Time ago ,and called it one of YOUR favorite drills ( There are other ones also ,such as lflipping the club from ear to ear with the wrists very loose ).This testimony is to vouch it really works :I practise it as you say when waiting for the party ahead to move on ,So when I go in the swing mode ,it’s automatic .
What would you think About this drill being part of a workout with the UST. Getting into position 1 (stretch) and from there initiating the hips as you are doing in this drill?
Paul ,
How far back in the backswing should you go ?
You did numerous videos on the subject and said it was not that important not to go to the 90° angle going back ,and you said you didn’t do it either .
Should I work hard on my spine flexibility doing specific drills (Those of JEREMY KLINKHAMER)to get to the 90° postion or should I not care so much ?
It seems to me the more torque you build in the backswing ,the fastest you get in the throughswing
You go back until you feel tightly coiled. This is not how far back I go it is how far back you go. Everyone is different.
I do not care if you can go back farther or not. I care about the ratio between the shoulders, hips, knees and feet. You need torque. Go back as far as you can to get it. If you want to get more flexible and turn better then feel free to do so. I just do know if it will make you hit it any farther.
Paul, I would like to be using your “favorite” drill as a practice swing before I set-up. But because of a history of back pain issues, I limit my practice swings. So, I have been using this drill for a year or so as part of my set-up. Usually I set up and do this drill once or twice, drop the club to the ball and start my swing. It helps immensely! This move is my downswing trigger. sets the pace of my swing and along with the proper grip pressure are my keys to executing your powerless arm swing.
That’s a great routine. I like it. Not sure what is going on with your back and if it is swing related. My swing should never hurt your body so hopefully it is not from your swing. If so, you are still hitting and potentially doing other things wrong that are putting stress on your lower back.
Paul ,When watching the recent HSBC event at SHANGHAI ,the three top players were FINAU ,SCHAUBELE and ROSE .
FINAU hit the ball further from the tee than SCHAUBELE and ROSE ,yet he lost (Narrowly) in the playoff against SCHAUBELE .The best swing in my opinion was ROSE ,then SCHAUBELE, then FINAU ,but FINAU ,who is a tall and strong guy has a very more ,short and restricted swing than the two other contendants ( Not such a good looking swing ) .This would confirm your statement that more coil in the backswing doesn’t necessarily give you more torque power !
I guess the push in the legs against the ground is also a major factor.
In your recommendations ,you don’t dwell that much on this push
I give numerous triggers. I have found that most people like the belt buckle as the trigger. So to keep telling everyone to push from the ground may not help. I want people to at leas t feel something in the lower body. Once they get that and get more experience then they can certainly try to use the ground more. This is definitely the way to get more power but you have to start somewhere.
Paul, a quick question about the position of the hips and shoulders throughout the swing. At the top of the backswing the relationship of hips/shoulders is 45deg/90deg. At the start of the downswing the relationship is 0deg/45deg. At impact the relationship is -45deg/0deg. Is this correct? Just trying to figure out if the shoulders are behind the hips until past impact with the shoulders finally catching up at (or near) the “touch the head” position?
The one you are missing is impact. It is -45 and about -30 with the shoulders. They are actually open at impact. Just after impact they are both -45/-45 The swing comes to a complete stop then the hips start moving again which allows you to move into the follow through.
Paul,
In this and an earlier tip you recommend how to quickly rotate the hips the first 45 degrees. Nothing is said about the remaining 90-plus degrees. If my trigger is to turn my belt buckle left of the target, it would just be a continuation of the 45 degree movement shown here. What do I do if my trigger is one of the others (say, spring-off-the back-instep)? Do I practice trying to smoothly coordinate doing the two distinctly different movements back-to-back? (I see no hint in your own swing videos that that is what you do). Your response to Raymond suggests that this movement only is used with the turn-your-belt-buckle trigger. This is important to me because I am working hard on doing the back-instep trigger. I will be grateful for a response. Thank you.
Steve Kelleher
I am assuming you are going to go to the touch the legs position and not just stop after turning 45 degrees. Get the first 45 and you even have a chance to get the rest.
So yes, you would get the hips back to the ball first then continue them left of target into the follow through. If you are just thinking of where they end up you may hit the ball first then switch to turning your hips. This is not what I want or what will work. You need to fire the hips immediately. Also, you are thinking bump or shift you will not get the first 45 either.
No matter what trigger you choose they all happen. So if you are springing from the instep your hips should be turning.
So fire the lower immediately. Recognize in doing so that your belt buckle is immediately turning back to the ball then it keeps turning.
This question is not directly related to this vidéo.I train with my arms separately :swing with the left arm alone ,then swing with the right arm alone ,then the two arms together .This gives me more feel with what the arms and the core do .Is this all right ?
Of course I use the lower body doing so ..
That’s fine but really I don’t want you hitting with arms. The arms should be working as a unit so the fact that you do both together is good. I never swing with just one arm.
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21 Responses to “DRILL – How To Get Your Hips Moving”
August 17, 2013
clintwalkerPaul, my ams want to fall when I start this drill is that ok. THe only way I can stop my arms falling is y feeling by initiating it with my butt (lol) sorry for the crudeness. Is this a issue?
August 18, 2013
Paul WilsonClint,
Your arms may come down a little when doing this. Just understand the concept. I want you starting the hips first. If your arms are all tight and locked up you will be hitting so they will both move together. Just turn them off and feel the belt buckle back to the ball. As you getting better at it you should be able to do it. Also, I am okay with the butt turn if it works. You just need this first 45 degrees.
February 21, 2015
JamesChapleauI think I am coiling correctly and uncoiling my hips at the target properly. But I realize I may be fooling myself too my sawing speed with a driver has decreased from 86mph to 67mph in the past two-three years when I was stiff armed and flat footed. My distance has drooped from 240 to 190-200yds with the driver and from 175 to 135 with a seven iron. I’m 75 years old, 5′ 7″; 165 lbs but I have lost most of my muscle due to recent surgeries. Still, I think if I was rotating correctly I would not lose so much swing speed.
February 22, 2015
Paul WilsonJames,
I could do nothing and get it to 67 mph. I could also do nothing and get it to 86 mph. So if I can do this I am doing it a different way. I am really using my legs and wrists are very loose. I would think you are not turning fast enough so you are not developing the whipping action of the club. If you were hitting it 240 you can do it again. It just take more effort in the legs. One of IG members at 81 was hitting it 256 and he was all of 5’5″ so it can be done. Just need to do it the right way.
I would get Pete to check your swing for you. Then he can get you on track. We are going to do a $20 analysis shortly. If you are interested just contact us. Then you won’t be guessing. Thanks.
November 7, 2018
Abbot KSnowHey old dude, nothing wrong with those numbers in my book. At 78 and 5′ 9″ that’s where I am at. Best part is that you know your distances!! I too am working the body swing. Good luck.
February 22, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul,You showed us this drill a long Time ago ,and called it one of YOUR favorite drills ( There are other ones also ,such as lflipping the club from ear to ear with the wrists very loose ).This testimony is to vouch it really works :I practise it as you say when waiting for the party ahead to move on ,So when I go in the swing mode ,it’s automatic .
February 22, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond
Every Friday I replay and old tip from the archive.
February 22, 2015
CraigSmithHi Paul,
What would you think About this drill being part of a workout with the UST. Getting into position 1 (stretch) and from there initiating the hips as you are doing in this drill?
Thanks, Craig
February 22, 2015
Paul WilsonCraig,
Great idea. I kind of did a tip on the hips and the UST here:
DRILL: Faster Hip Rotation (UST): https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-faster-hip-rotation/
February 23, 2015
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,
How far back in the backswing should you go ?
You did numerous videos on the subject and said it was not that important not to go to the 90° angle going back ,and you said you didn’t do it either .
Should I work hard on my spine flexibility doing specific drills (Those of JEREMY KLINKHAMER)to get to the 90° postion or should I not care so much ?
It seems to me the more torque you build in the backswing ,the fastest you get in the throughswing
February 24, 2015
Paul WilsonRaymond,
You go back until you feel tightly coiled. This is not how far back I go it is how far back you go. Everyone is different.
I do not care if you can go back farther or not. I care about the ratio between the shoulders, hips, knees and feet. You need torque. Go back as far as you can to get it. If you want to get more flexible and turn better then feel free to do so. I just do know if it will make you hit it any farther.
November 2, 2018
JeffreyGardinerPaul, I would like to be using your “favorite” drill as a practice swing before I set-up. But because of a history of back pain issues, I limit my practice swings. So, I have been using this drill for a year or so as part of my set-up. Usually I set up and do this drill once or twice, drop the club to the ball and start my swing. It helps immensely! This move is my downswing trigger. sets the pace of my swing and along with the proper grip pressure are my keys to executing your powerless arm swing.
November 4, 2018
Paul WilsonJeff,
That’s a great routine. I like it. Not sure what is going on with your back and if it is swing related. My swing should never hurt your body so hopefully it is not from your swing. If so, you are still hitting and potentially doing other things wrong that are putting stress on your lower back.
Let me know.
November 3, 2018
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,When watching the recent HSBC event at SHANGHAI ,the three top players were FINAU ,SCHAUBELE and ROSE .
FINAU hit the ball further from the tee than SCHAUBELE and ROSE ,yet he lost (Narrowly) in the playoff against SCHAUBELE .The best swing in my opinion was ROSE ,then SCHAUBELE, then FINAU ,but FINAU ,who is a tall and strong guy has a very more ,short and restricted swing than the two other contendants ( Not such a good looking swing ) .This would confirm your statement that more coil in the backswing doesn’t necessarily give you more torque power !
I guess the push in the legs against the ground is also a major factor.
In your recommendations ,you don’t dwell that much on this push
November 4, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I give numerous triggers. I have found that most people like the belt buckle as the trigger. So to keep telling everyone to push from the ground may not help. I want people to at leas t feel something in the lower body. Once they get that and get more experience then they can certainly try to use the ground more. This is definitely the way to get more power but you have to start somewhere.
November 3, 2018
RobertWongPaul, a quick question about the position of the hips and shoulders throughout the swing. At the top of the backswing the relationship of hips/shoulders is 45deg/90deg. At the start of the downswing the relationship is 0deg/45deg. At impact the relationship is -45deg/0deg. Is this correct? Just trying to figure out if the shoulders are behind the hips until past impact with the shoulders finally catching up at (or near) the “touch the head” position?
November 4, 2018
Paul WilsonRobert,
The one you are missing is impact. It is -45 and about -30 with the shoulders. They are actually open at impact. Just after impact they are both -45/-45 The swing comes to a complete stop then the hips start moving again which allows you to move into the follow through.
Shoulders At Impact: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-shoulders/
Impact Hip Rotation (at camera): https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-hip-rotation/
Lower Body Through Impact (top View): https://ignitiongolf.com/back-knee-impact/
December 24, 2018
StephenKelleherPaul,
In this and an earlier tip you recommend how to quickly rotate the hips the first 45 degrees. Nothing is said about the remaining 90-plus degrees. If my trigger is to turn my belt buckle left of the target, it would just be a continuation of the 45 degree movement shown here. What do I do if my trigger is one of the others (say, spring-off-the back-instep)? Do I practice trying to smoothly coordinate doing the two distinctly different movements back-to-back? (I see no hint in your own swing videos that that is what you do). Your response to Raymond suggests that this movement only is used with the turn-your-belt-buckle trigger. This is important to me because I am working hard on doing the back-instep trigger. I will be grateful for a response. Thank you.
Steve Kelleher
December 24, 2018
Paul WilsonSteve,
I am assuming you are going to go to the touch the legs position and not just stop after turning 45 degrees. Get the first 45 and you even have a chance to get the rest.
So yes, you would get the hips back to the ball first then continue them left of target into the follow through. If you are just thinking of where they end up you may hit the ball first then switch to turning your hips. This is not what I want or what will work. You need to fire the hips immediately. Also, you are thinking bump or shift you will not get the first 45 either.
No matter what trigger you choose they all happen. So if you are springing from the instep your hips should be turning.
So fire the lower immediately. Recognize in doing so that your belt buckle is immediately turning back to the ball then it keeps turning.
December 24, 2018
RaymondCHASTELThis question is not directly related to this vidéo.I train with my arms separately :swing with the left arm alone ,then swing with the right arm alone ,then the two arms together .This gives me more feel with what the arms and the core do .Is this all right ?
Of course I use the lower body doing so ..
December 26, 2018
Paul WilsonRaymond,
That’s fine but really I don’t want you hitting with arms. The arms should be working as a unit so the fact that you do both together is good. I never swing with just one arm.