This should happen if you fire the lower body but I remember way back when I was working on it I started at the back of the ball for a while. Now I don’t even realize the ball is there.
And to add to Chris’ question, how do we reconcile moving weight off the back foot as a trigger while remaining tilted back? Is it a feeling of the lower half leaving the upper part of the body behind as you start the downswing?
The downswing motion is the same motion as throwing a ball.
Do you throw a ball flat footed? No. Is your body angled back as throw? Yes. Driving the lower body hard is like hitting the accelerator on a car. If you drive only the legs and hips he body mass would hang back. The more you drive the more it hangs back. I did a tip on this here:
If you cannot get this tilt through driving the lower body then take it in stages. This means you need to know that firing the lower body causes your upper body to hang back into the dowswing. This tilt determines the path. Tilt left and you will start it left. Tilt too much right and you will start it right. Tilt slightly right and the club swings down the line.
So knowing this, manually tilt your body right as you hit the ball. Once you get this work on the touch the legs position.
Paul ,
I Watch carefully the major Golf OPENS on the TV:quite often there is a slow motion of the golf swing with the driver .
Some top pro’s have an incredible extension forward with the right arm (and left arm altogether ) in the finishing of the throughswing :HUNTER MAHAN is a good example of this ,but he is far to be the only one .
But they all finish nevertheless with the shaft bisecting the neck
Should I try to do the same (Very difficult to achieve !)
So you keep asking me what you need to do yet in this comment you are admitting you are not doing this position. So do the positions I teach. This is not hard. Just set the exact position and keep doing practice swings until it is mastered. It needs to go through the ears so it is swinging at 90 degrees to the axis.
A comment relating to swing path as it relates to the new May 2019 issue of GOLF Magazine. An article entitled “Legacy Lessons” is about “timeless” lessons from the grandfather of a famous instruction family. Notably, one of these great legacy lessons to “ramp up the consistency” is that your hips should slide toward the target from 10 to 14 inches. Unbelievable!
That kind of sliding (just as I was taught in the late 60s) ruined my swing for 50 years until I found the Body Swing and Ignition Golf. The whole time I struggled with seeming unexplainable wild duck hooks off the toe of the club. I now know that it was because my body tilt was horrendously backward creating an exaggerated inside-out swing path. Consistency was impossible.
It is amazing the number of long-held swing philosophies that you debunk through proof of the physical science of the golf swing.
Paul, you are a man among boys in the golf instruction industry.
Yeah go ahead and try that one. I did this too when I was a kid. I calculated out that I was hitting it 95 yards off line. Also sliding kills your lower back.
It is truly mind boggling what is out there. No wonder people struggle.
It’s all about the physics! Club-head speed at contact is what gives the ball energy to launch. Velocity is a vector, so at contact, if the path of travel isn’t square to target, some of the force on the ball is directed towards the target and some is perpendicular to it; the perpendicular force is what causes the side spin that makes a ball slice or hook. Either slice or hook, LESS force is applied to the ball in the direction of the target, making you LOSE distance!
I played last saturday, shot a 99, I had very good short game day. Chipped in twice, 1 putted a few. But my driver, and Irons (all clubs) would start just RT of target, and then balloon up and right. Like I was getting stuck. I couldn’t get the face to square, and I was highly frustrated. I am LHanded, but play rt handed, always have. Do I need to practice the “hook it” drill. Please help.
You can do that at home every night so don’t feel you have to hit balls.
Once you get it hooking you are no longer a slicer. You are on the wrong direction though. This means you would be working on body rotation to straighten out the hook. Spin = wrists – Body = direction.
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13 Responses to “Distance Series – Path”
November 30, 2014
chrisboddenHi Paul,
If you fire the hips correctly would you still have to focus on looking at the back of the ball?
Thank you
December 3, 2014
Paul WilsonChris,
This should happen if you fire the lower body but I remember way back when I was working on it I started at the back of the ball for a while. Now I don’t even realize the ball is there.
December 1, 2014
RichardBourkeHi Paul,
And to add to Chris’ question, how do we reconcile moving weight off the back foot as a trigger while remaining tilted back? Is it a feeling of the lower half leaving the upper part of the body behind as you start the downswing?
December 1, 2014
RichardBourkePaul,
Disregard my previous question. Your link to ‘How to stop pulling your shots’ above titled ‘Body Tilt – Left Right’ answered everything perfectly.
December 3, 2014
Paul WilsonRichard,
The downswing motion is the same motion as throwing a ball.
Do you throw a ball flat footed? No. Is your body angled back as throw? Yes. Driving the lower body hard is like hitting the accelerator on a car. If you drive only the legs and hips he body mass would hang back. The more you drive the more it hangs back. I did a tip on this here:
Impact Tilt With Different Clubs: https://ignitiongolf.com/impact-tilt-different-clubs/
If you cannot get this tilt through driving the lower body then take it in stages. This means you need to know that firing the lower body causes your upper body to hang back into the dowswing. This tilt determines the path. Tilt left and you will start it left. Tilt too much right and you will start it right. Tilt slightly right and the club swings down the line.
So knowing this, manually tilt your body right as you hit the ball. Once you get this work on the touch the legs position.
Watch:
Cures – Manually Tilt To Stop Pulling: https://ignitiongolf.com/manually-tilt-cure-pull/
Body Tilt – Left Right: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-pulling
December 6, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,
I Watch carefully the major Golf OPENS on the TV:quite often there is a slow motion of the golf swing with the driver .
Some top pro’s have an incredible extension forward with the right arm (and left arm altogether ) in the finishing of the throughswing :HUNTER MAHAN is a good example of this ,but he is far to be the only one .
But they all finish nevertheless with the shaft bisecting the neck
Should I try to do the same (Very difficult to achieve !)
December 7, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
So you keep asking me what you need to do yet in this comment you are admitting you are not doing this position. So do the positions I teach. This is not hard. Just set the exact position and keep doing practice swings until it is mastered. It needs to go through the ears so it is swinging at 90 degrees to the axis.
One Of The Secrets To The Golf Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/secrets-to-golf-swing/
April 19, 2019
MichaelBarrettPaul,
A comment relating to swing path as it relates to the new May 2019 issue of GOLF Magazine. An article entitled “Legacy Lessons” is about “timeless” lessons from the grandfather of a famous instruction family. Notably, one of these great legacy lessons to “ramp up the consistency” is that your hips should slide toward the target from 10 to 14 inches. Unbelievable!
That kind of sliding (just as I was taught in the late 60s) ruined my swing for 50 years until I found the Body Swing and Ignition Golf. The whole time I struggled with seeming unexplainable wild duck hooks off the toe of the club. I now know that it was because my body tilt was horrendously backward creating an exaggerated inside-out swing path. Consistency was impossible.
It is amazing the number of long-held swing philosophies that you debunk through proof of the physical science of the golf swing.
Paul, you are a man among boys in the golf instruction industry.
Thanks!
Mike
April 22, 2019
Paul WilsonMike,
Yeah go ahead and try that one. I did this too when I was a kid. I calculated out that I was hitting it 95 yards off line. Also sliding kills your lower back.
It is truly mind boggling what is out there. No wonder people struggle.
April 19, 2019
fretless5It’s all about the physics! Club-head speed at contact is what gives the ball energy to launch. Velocity is a vector, so at contact, if the path of travel isn’t square to target, some of the force on the ball is directed towards the target and some is perpendicular to it; the perpendicular force is what causes the side spin that makes a ball slice or hook. Either slice or hook, LESS force is applied to the ball in the direction of the target, making you LOSE distance!
April 22, 2019
Paul Wilsonfretless5,
So moral of the story you should be making direct contact.
April 25, 2019
SteveSmercakI played last saturday, shot a 99, I had very good short game day. Chipped in twice, 1 putted a few. But my driver, and Irons (all clubs) would start just RT of target, and then balloon up and right. Like I was getting stuck. I couldn’t get the face to square, and I was highly frustrated. I am LHanded, but play rt handed, always have. Do I need to practice the “hook it” drill. Please help.
April 30, 2019
Paul WilsonSteve,
2 chips ins. Wow! So that part of the game is coming along. Great.
Yes, you need to immediately do the roll over drill. Get it hooking then add legs to straighten it out.
DRILL: 3 Ways To Roll It Over: https://ignitiongolf.com/3-ways-to-roll/
Roll Around The Stick: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-around-stick/
Clarifying the Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/clarifying-roll-drill
Another Reason To Do The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/another-reason-to-roll/
How Long Should You Do The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/roll-over-drill-how-long/
You can do that at home every night so don’t feel you have to hit balls.
Once you get it hooking you are no longer a slicer. You are on the wrong direction though. This means you would be working on body rotation to straighten out the hook. Spin = wrists – Body = direction.
After The Roll Over Drill: https://ignitiongolf.com/after-the-roll-over/
Watch The Ball To Fix Your Swing: https://ignitiongolf.com/watch-ball-to-fix-your-swing/
How to Cure the Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-direction/
How to Cure the Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/fix-spin-problems/
How to Cure the Contact: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-contact/
How to Cure Spin and Direction Problems: https://ignitiongolf.com/cure-spin-direction-problems/
Pocket Drill 1 – Spin: https://ignitiongolf.com/pocket-drill-1-spin/
Pocket Drill 2 – Direction: https://ignitiongolf.com/pocket-drill-2-direction/