Chicken Wing Logic

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Paul Wilson

Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

18 Responses to “Chicken Wing Logic”

  1. June 19, 2016

    johnhoyle

    GREETINGS COACH What a wonderful game golf, where else can you experience great satisfaction and crushing depression, and more often than not ,at least for me, on the same hole. I am now at the place in my game where the little mistakes show up,picking the wrong club,taking the club back too far for chips and pitches,lining up a one foot put and missing it,the list goes on. I think I have been with you for 4 years and for the most part I KNOW WHAT TO DO but I can’t always pull it off. Today at a dog leg par 4 with a small pond, not much bigger than a puddle, I usually hit an 8 to the 140 yard corner to take the puddle out of play,i get my target,and then hit the ball straight but 15 yards off my intended line into the water. I know what to do but can’t always make it happen. I am happy with my game over all thanks to you an your teaching, i’ll keep on learning THANKS COACH

    • John,

      You are right. This game can drive you crazy at times. This is why you need a good short game.

      A lot of what you are referring to is experience. As you keep getting better you will make the right choices. After a while you won’t even know what is there.

      Just keep up the practice swings at home making your swing perfect and try to keep doing lots of short game.

  2. June 19, 2016

    johnhoyle

    P S if I end my swing with the club in the ears position and knees touching can I be reasonably sure that I did not do the dreaded CHICKEN WING? My left arm is at 90 degrees

    • John,

      You can cure the chicken wing with the touching of the head position but you have to make sure the clubshaft is touching your head not the runner grip.

  3. It finally clicked! Practiced in my backyard, been focusing on straightening my arms, and finally got the weight shift at the right time. Took my first ever divot! Didn’t think about it. Combining straight loose arms with the shift first at top of back swing got the compression. Thanks so much!

    • Daniel,

      Good stuff. A lot of members are having stuff click right now. You never know when but once it does it is a great feeling as you now know. Keep at it.

  4. If you practice your swing in front OF a mirror or a Window pane ,you can’t miss seeing if you chickenwing your swing or not .
    A long Time ago ( 1945 ) a gentleman by THE name OF Ernest JONES showed how to swing with ” POWERLESS ARMS ” He just took a handkerchief ,tied a pocket knife to it and swung the pocket knife while keeping THE handkerchief taught .He went a step further and swung a golf club and THE handkerchief together with THE handkerchief Still staying taught .
    When I swing with your ” POWERLESS ARMS ” method ,I always have this image in my mind .
    I specially need it when I’m about to hit a long drive off THE TEE ,or a long fairway shot ,so m’y ARMS don’t buckle uglily in a ” chicken wing ” .It takes a lot OF Will to swing smoothly while keeping THE ARMS passive .It takes also and foremost thousands OF practice swings at home to get there .
    When I don’t Play ,i take 200 swings a DAY in front OF one OF m’y Window panes ,and I carefully monitor how I swing .

    • Raymond,

      It take that and knowing how to use the body to power the swing. I like the practice swings. This stuff takes work. You cannot take days off and expect to develop a great swing.

  5. Paul ,I watched with admiration and awe the US PGA at OAKMONT .
    All of those who played sub par had great swings ,each one different from the other .
    But all took two ,three or four practice swings before going into the final swing .
    I don’t do that ,I merely take one leisurely practice swing ,without touching the turf .
    Should I copy those great pro’s?

    • Raymond,

      You should do at least 2 practice swing before you hit your shot. I take 2 practice swings feeling the stretch in the lat muscle. Then I step up and replicate this stretch. You can find what works for you but if you are wanting power I would be holding the club at knee high and doing 2 practice swings feeling the legs and hips making the club swing. Then step up and apply this same feeling.

      • Paul ,After I sent you my last e-mail regarding the practise swings before hitting the real shot ,and before receiving your comment, I played yesterday 18 holes and I had in mind the “rehearsel “practise swings of DUSTIN JOHNSON which I looked at with great attention during his last USPGA which he won .
        I purposedly swung slowly AROUND MY BODY ,paying attention to the last part of the swing when you turn around the upper torso facing the target into the the “TOUCH YOUR HEAD “position .
        I took three swings ,like DUSTIN .
        Well it works :my “real “swings were more smooth and more consistent :my legs and hips participated fully to the swing and my shots were longer .
        So I”ll go on this way .

        • Raymond,

          Sounds good. Copying pro is a good thing. They have the right fundamentals. Just need to know what you are looking at.

  6. June 23, 2016

    KennthBova

    Paul, I’ve discovered that if I stay connected (my left armpit rubbing against my chest) on the downswing, that I do hit the ball crisper, further, and straighter. I don’t feel any chicken wing.

    • Ken,

      Connection is important. You won’t feel a chicken wing even if you are doing one. You need to video your swing to check it.

      You can have too much connection though too. This would cause too flat a backswing. Although connected, your lead arm need to ride up the left pec muscle as you near the top.

      Watch:

      Connection: http://ignitiongolf.com/connection-backswing/
      Depth of Swing: http://ignitiongolf.com/correct-backswing-depth/

      Just because you hit a few good shot doesn’t mean you have it so keep that in mind. Let’s see how it progresses into the future. Also, because you are feeling this connection you still have to do the positions.

  7. Paul– I am a new member and enjoying all the videos tips etc.. I am 50 years old and making golf a new priority. I have played for several years but never worked on my game therefore had a crappy swing. Being an ex college athlete I can swing hard enough to hit the ball far BUT the consistency and accuracy is always a problem !! I do know that with video my arms collapse right at impact and I “short arm it ” in follow through. My practice swing is great– But when I get over that shot with a couple bucks on the line– I fold up– still hit far with slight pull— BUT cant stop it !!! Any other hot tips ? I have been told its the hardest thing to erase. Thanks for all the great videos– By far the best !!

    • Conroy,

      Glad you like the videos. Thanks.

      What you need to do is replace your current thoughts with new thoughts. Right now, you are hitting. Of course your practice swings are okay because there is nothing to hit. As you see, you put the ball there and it all changes. So with the ball you hit with arms. I teach powerless arms which means you are not hitting or helping it in any way with your arms. Also, I teach very specific positions (4) that all give you feedback so you know you are doing them exactly right. So whether you are doing a practice swing or its reality you are focused on doing the positions not hitting the ball.

      I think you should be starting here:

      http://ignitiongolf.com/start-here/

      These are the positions I teach everyone in the order I teach them. So you follow these and supplement them with the other tips in those areas. Don’t jump around.

      So now when you are at home doing practice swings (which I highly recommend) you are still doing the positions. Master the positions, you master the swing.

  8. Great– Thank you– You are right I am a big fan of jumping around in efforts to find the Quick fix !! I read your new book last night, the above is spelled out well…. I will go back to work– Thanks.

    • Conroy,

      Think like this and 20 years from now you will still be searching. Been there. This does not work. You need to follow a technique (preferably mine) step-by-step. It takes a little effort but you will have it for life. You are building a great swing. A great swing hits great shots.

      Glad you read the new book. I was definitely trying to drive home this point. Just follow it.

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