IF YOU COULD ATTACH A MEDICUS CLUB TO YOUR TORSO OR CORE AND KEEP YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK AND SHOW PEOPLE HOW THE CLUB AUTOMATICALLY HINGES AND UNHINGES MAYBE PEOPLE WILL FINALLY SEE, LIKE I DID, HOW THE ARMS MUST BE POWERLESS! THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. MY HANDICAP HAS DROPPED FROM 18 TO 12 THANKS TO YOU AND I HAVE SHOT MANY ROUNDS IN THE 70’S! EITHER THE MEDICUS OR ATTACH A TWO BY FOUR WITH A HINGE TO YOUR CHEST! HAHAHAHAAH….KEEP IT HAPPY!
I played an entire round today swinging 50% and I did hit some very nice shots.
I also hit some very poor ones. I came home and watched Inbee Park win the women’s
U. S. Open. She is a great example of the way you teach. I am going to keep drilling
the positions into my swing and see what happens.
That’s great news. As I keep telling people 50% is the thought that needs to be on your mind when you are playing.
The poor shots are you not being used to swinging at this level so you don’t trust it, you get distracted or you tighten up. You now know it works so do it again and again until you do trust it. Then turn ONLY the lower body a little faster to get to 60-70%. Get used to it then go a little faster with the lower body once more and you are at top speed.
Your arms are connected to your body. The momentum should be getting them up into the correct hinged top of the backswing position. Once set, you are turning your lower body to start and power the swing. Your powerless arms are going along for the ride.
If you turn back and you are too flat I do want you to lift the club up into position. If they are going up into position I want you doing nothing with your arms. Powerless means zero power not less power.
Wow, this is unreal. I know I’m new and all, so my words probably mean little here. After seeing this video, I went outside with my 7 iron and my music. Not caring who’s looking at me or anything. First, I stood there just lighty swinging the club back and forth like a pendulum not using any legs or hips and all, just the wrists/hinging… thingy. Then after awhile, I added in a little hips /torque mechanic and with no effort my club went from a tame pendulum to a “grandfather clock on speed”. I was clearing the 3 oclock and 9 oclock positions without even trying. My grip was the bare minimum, just enough that I could hold on to it and not clock “Mrs. Robinson” over there with an out of control 7 iron. And it was fun… I think I get it. Slowly but surely, I think I get it. Gotta go practice some more…
Hi Paul – Great tip, and it’s helped in getting me closer to “powerless arms”. I’m having some questions on my backswing plane. I’ve mastered your impact and follow thru positions… I’m having a hard time following where the backswing plane should be. What gets your arms up there? Just should turn and torque? Do you use any arms to complete the back swing? I know some other folks above might be having the same questions on how to get the club up to the right positions as you do… I have watched your “upright vs. flat” tips, but am looking for some tips on how to know ig you are on the perfect backswing plane. If I knew this, I believe it could get m 90% there – the other 10% is more practice swings and looseness in the hands and arms….Thanks!
Paul,
I’m not sure if this is a weird question, but when you’re swinging with “powerless arms”, do you actually feel the whipping action of the club past the ball to the point of impact. When I try to “turn off my arms”, it seems more that they’re doing nothing…which I guess is good…but not actually whipping through..Of course my wife is humoring me by saying that playing golf without arms must be very interesting and probably slows the speed of the game. I imagine you feel something in your swing that is not easily attained by many others
I am feeling nothing in my arms. If yours have been tight you will probably be feeling a whipping action. The feeling I get is absolutely no resistance as well as no hitting or helping the shot in any way. I just let it go wherever it wants to go. Just let the club go and make sure it is splitting your ears when you are in your follow through. If you truly let it go it will end up parallel to the ears at the end.
Coiling and Uncoiling with the legs and shoulders (front shoulder) as the motor. However the pivot is with the back hip (crankshaft) to the right foot’s instep in addtion to the front sholder’s turn. Am I correct?
You need to coil and uncoil. In this process your head moves right going back creating the first axis between the head, body and back leg. You then uncoil. After impact, you create a second axis between your head, body and left leg. I do not know why you are thinking of your back hip. This does not move the most your shoulders do. You cannot do a 90 degree shoulder rotation unless your hips move so why move your hips? Why not move your shoulders to move your hips? So forget your hips going back. Think of coiling the shoulders allowing the head to move back and weight to load.
I feel that most of those who are giving a comment on this Video don’t remember your excellent Video on the “RELEASE. “which coupled with the “POWERLESS ARMS “actually gives all it’s Speed to the clubhead .
Hi, I can do the move without the arms now, it works very well, the ball is hit flush and goes straight and high but not as far as most people I play with. I keep my arm straight not to get back into the too long backswing I used to have and think this causes tension. . I think if my arms were more loose I would get more distance. How do I get my arms loose without overswinging. Thank you.
Your backswing length is determined by your backswing coil. As soon as you feel tightly coiled you are at the top. So keep the arms loose and coil back until you are tight. Keep in mind you do want the lead arm extended as you go back but not locked. As you said if the arm is too tight you will create too much tension. So give this a try. It should become clear where the top of the backswing is.
As far as distance is concerned, you need to be turning your legs and hips way faster to generate this power. Couple this with the loose wrists and you get the speed. So keep doing these leg drills:
In many of your videos I noticed you have about a 15 degree flex in your left arm at the top of your back swing. What is an acceptable amount of flex and how much effort should we put into keeping the arm “straight”?Thx
I want the lead arm extended but not tight. I just cannot get it any straighter. Many of the top pros of all time bent this arm. The thing you need to be aware of is if it is back to perfectly straight by the time you hit the ball. If so the arc is the same as you pre-determined at setup. If it buckles the arc is narrowing. So keep yours as straight as you can without getting tight.
You have stressed that you must finish with the right foot up on the toes, with no bend in the right shoe. Even though I feel that I’m turning correctly, I don’t seem to get there. My legs are touching and the club is finishing in the correct position. Does this suggest what I’m doing wrong?
I measured my driver swing speed on the range. I felt that I was swinging pretty good, but consistently saw every swing was 88 or 89 MPH. I’m turning as hard as I can without getting out of control, and I think my arms are powerless and the wrist loose. What am I missing?
This would suggest there is a little too much weight on the back foot that you could be using to power your swing. I don’t remember you having a problem with this. You may also have balance issues. You just have to keep setting this position and mastering it. It is rotation that should be turning your body and lifting this foot onto the very tip of the toe. Too much lateral may have you a little stuck.
You are missing that you have hit all your life with your arms. You need to be turning way faster with the lower body. I am going as hard as I can. I have done this for years so I am good at it. You are not. If you want power you need to be doing this drill constantly:
Keep doing it in practice swing every night for a month straight. Get this club moving out of control fast by using your legs. This will eventually go into your swing and you will get used to moving this fast.
Also, there is more lag and loose wrists. You should be working on this without my having to tell you to do this.
So how do you keep a good lag angle when you turn fast? If I try the powerless arms approach, it seems the centripetal force causes the club to release much sooner then I would like. How do you prevent this? You say your technique is based on physics, but physics will dictate the lag angle will increase, at least somewhat, as you swing around an axis with a hinge.
The club is mass. If you turn an axis (body) mass (the club) will lag to its maximum 100% of the time.
LAG means something is trailing behind something else. Why would the club move (mass) unless you moved it? It wouldn’t because it is lagging behind the axis. This lag angle is then compressed into the downswing where the lead arm is parallel to the ground. It is at this point where it is just starting to release a little from this point to the release point approx 2 feet after contact with irons and approx. 3 feet after contact with woods. The club reaches this maximum point due to the forces acting on the mass (mass will always want to swing at its widest point). The widest point is where both arms are fully extended again in the swing. This point is after the ball is hit that is why I do not care about impact.
You keep a good lag angle by manually working on the lag angle into the downswing. I could tell you to turn your arms off. I know you will never do this to the degree you need to to get perfect lag so manually work on the lag. Once you get it, then forget it.
Little kids have perfect lag because they are not strong enough to move the mass. This means they turn their body and the club lags behind the axis. An adult will not do this due to the golf ball sitting in front of them and human nature telling you to hit the object. If you do, you will move the mass before axis thus losing the lag.
I have a whole section on LAG in the red nav bar. Just follow the drills and tips and you should be able to get it.
THE instruction of PAUL WILSON is strictly based on THE laws of physics !PAUL explaiins in everybody’s language what goes on in a perfect golf swing .
Example :the lag angle :this is strictly THE application of THE principle called THE “CONSERVATION OF ANGULAR MOMENTUM ”
If you swing exactly as PAUL tells you to do (Straight left arm .powerless arms ,release ,top of THE backswing position etc.. ) THE lag angle takes care of itself :you cannot influence it except by hinging less THE wrists at THE top or changing THE speed of THE rotation of THE hips .
THE great lesson taught by PAUL IS TO TURN YOUR HIPS THE FASTEST POSSIBLE IN THE DOWNSWING/THROUGHSWING while extending fully your right arm (THE “long “right arm .)
Thank you PAUL for your no nonsense /Practical golf lessons .
N.B. For those who want to know THE Maths/Physics in THE golf Swing ,please read the book of HOMER KELLEY named THE GOLFING MACHINE .HOMER KELLEY was an outstanding engineer working at BOEING during WW 2 .
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24 Responses to “How the Center Core Moves In the Swing”
June 30, 2013
DOUGTANZERIF YOU COULD ATTACH A MEDICUS CLUB TO YOUR TORSO OR CORE AND KEEP YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK AND SHOW PEOPLE HOW THE CLUB AUTOMATICALLY HINGES AND UNHINGES MAYBE PEOPLE WILL FINALLY SEE, LIKE I DID, HOW THE ARMS MUST BE POWERLESS! THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. MY HANDICAP HAS DROPPED FROM 18 TO 12 THANKS TO YOU AND I HAVE SHOT MANY ROUNDS IN THE 70’S! EITHER THE MEDICUS OR ATTACH A TWO BY FOUR WITH A HINGE TO YOUR CHEST! HAHAHAHAAH….KEEP IT HAPPY!
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonDoug,
The next tips should show it crystal clear. Stay tuned.
June 30, 2013
BrienRicciI played an entire round today swinging 50% and I did hit some very nice shots.
I also hit some very poor ones. I came home and watched Inbee Park win the women’s
U. S. Open. She is a great example of the way you teach. I am going to keep drilling
the positions into my swing and see what happens.
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonBrien,
That’s great news. As I keep telling people 50% is the thought that needs to be on your mind when you are playing.
The poor shots are you not being used to swinging at this level so you don’t trust it, you get distracted or you tighten up. You now know it works so do it again and again until you do trust it. Then turn ONLY the lower body a little faster to get to 60-70%. Get used to it then go a little faster with the lower body once more and you are at top speed.
July 1, 2013
RandyMillerDo you mean or are you saying you physcially do not move your arms at all?
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonRandy,
Your arms are connected to your body. The momentum should be getting them up into the correct hinged top of the backswing position. Once set, you are turning your lower body to start and power the swing. Your powerless arms are going along for the ride.
If you turn back and you are too flat I do want you to lift the club up into position. If they are going up into position I want you doing nothing with your arms. Powerless means zero power not less power.
Watch:
Too Flat: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-are-you-too-flat
And:
Connection: https://ignitiongolf.com/connection-backswing
July 1, 2013
LANCEWow, this is unreal. I know I’m new and all, so my words probably mean little here. After seeing this video, I went outside with my 7 iron and my music. Not caring who’s looking at me or anything. First, I stood there just lighty swinging the club back and forth like a pendulum not using any legs or hips and all, just the wrists/hinging… thingy. Then after awhile, I added in a little hips /torque mechanic and with no effort my club went from a tame pendulum to a “grandfather clock on speed”. I was clearing the 3 oclock and 9 oclock positions without even trying. My grip was the bare minimum, just enough that I could hold on to it and not clock “Mrs. Robinson” over there with an out of control 7 iron. And it was fun… I think I get it. Slowly but surely, I think I get it. Gotta go practice some more…
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonLance,
Glad you are seeing it. I thought that tip would make it clear for people. Maybe the next one will make even more sense. Keep at it.
July 1, 2013
HughClarkHi Paul – Great tip, and it’s helped in getting me closer to “powerless arms”. I’m having some questions on my backswing plane. I’ve mastered your impact and follow thru positions… I’m having a hard time following where the backswing plane should be. What gets your arms up there? Just should turn and torque? Do you use any arms to complete the back swing? I know some other folks above might be having the same questions on how to get the club up to the right positions as you do… I have watched your “upright vs. flat” tips, but am looking for some tips on how to know ig you are on the perfect backswing plane. If I knew this, I believe it could get m 90% there – the other 10% is more practice swings and looseness in the hands and arms….Thanks!
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonHugh,
The arms should be going up on their own because you have worked on perfecting the top of the backswing.
Watch:
Too Flat: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-are-you-too-flat
And:
Connection: https://ignitiongolf.com/connection-backswing
And:
Top of Backswing Square: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-square-at-top
July 1, 2013
DannyBenjaminPaul,
I’m not sure if this is a weird question, but when you’re swinging with “powerless arms”, do you actually feel the whipping action of the club past the ball to the point of impact. When I try to “turn off my arms”, it seems more that they’re doing nothing…which I guess is good…but not actually whipping through..Of course my wife is humoring me by saying that playing golf without arms must be very interesting and probably slows the speed of the game. I imagine you feel something in your swing that is not easily attained by many others
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonDanny,
I am feeling nothing in my arms. If yours have been tight you will probably be feeling a whipping action. The feeling I get is absolutely no resistance as well as no hitting or helping the shot in any way. I just let it go wherever it wants to go. Just let the club go and make sure it is splitting your ears when you are in your follow through. If you truly let it go it will end up parallel to the ears at the end.
July 1, 2013
MichaelBlockCoiling and Uncoiling with the legs and shoulders (front shoulder) as the motor. However the pivot is with the back hip (crankshaft) to the right foot’s instep in addtion to the front sholder’s turn. Am I correct?
July 1, 2013
Paul WilsonMichael,
You need to coil and uncoil. In this process your head moves right going back creating the first axis between the head, body and back leg. You then uncoil. After impact, you create a second axis between your head, body and left leg. I do not know why you are thinking of your back hip. This does not move the most your shoulders do. You cannot do a 90 degree shoulder rotation unless your hips move so why move your hips? Why not move your shoulders to move your hips? So forget your hips going back. Think of coiling the shoulders allowing the head to move back and weight to load.
Watch:
Coiling: https://ignitiongolf.com/learn-coil-backswing
Move Head: https://ignitiongolf.com/move-head-back/
July 1, 2013
RaymondCHASTELI feel that most of those who are giving a comment on this Video don’t remember your excellent Video on the “RELEASE. “which coupled with the “POWERLESS ARMS “actually gives all it’s Speed to the clubhead .
July 1, 2013
MichelleRichardsonHi, I can do the move without the arms now, it works very well, the ball is hit flush and goes straight and high but not as far as most people I play with. I keep my arm straight not to get back into the too long backswing I used to have and think this causes tension. . I think if my arms were more loose I would get more distance. How do I get my arms loose without overswinging. Thank you.
July 2, 2013
Paul WilsonMichelle,
Your backswing length is determined by your backswing coil. As soon as you feel tightly coiled you are at the top. So keep the arms loose and coil back until you are tight. Keep in mind you do want the lead arm extended as you go back but not locked. As you said if the arm is too tight you will create too much tension. So give this a try. It should become clear where the top of the backswing is.
As far as distance is concerned, you need to be turning your legs and hips way faster to generate this power. Couple this with the loose wrists and you get the speed. So keep doing these leg drills:
DRILL: Swing Off Ground: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-swing-off-ground
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club
Drill: Swing Off Ground Variation: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-variation-favorite-drill/
Drill: My Favorite Drill
July 1, 2013
dominicmacedoniaPaul,
In many of your videos I noticed you have about a 15 degree flex in your left arm at the top of your back swing. What is an acceptable amount of flex and how much effort should we put into keeping the arm “straight”?Thx
Dom
July 2, 2013
Paul WilsonDom,
I want the lead arm extended but not tight. I just cannot get it any straighter. Many of the top pros of all time bent this arm. The thing you need to be aware of is if it is back to perfectly straight by the time you hit the ball. If so the arc is the same as you pre-determined at setup. If it buckles the arc is narrowing. So keep yours as straight as you can without getting tight.
July 2, 2013
JaySchwarzPaul,
You have stressed that you must finish with the right foot up on the toes, with no bend in the right shoe. Even though I feel that I’m turning correctly, I don’t seem to get there. My legs are touching and the club is finishing in the correct position. Does this suggest what I’m doing wrong?
I measured my driver swing speed on the range. I felt that I was swinging pretty good, but consistently saw every swing was 88 or 89 MPH. I’m turning as hard as I can without getting out of control, and I think my arms are powerless and the wrist loose. What am I missing?
Thanks!
July 2, 2013
Paul WilsonJay,
This would suggest there is a little too much weight on the back foot that you could be using to power your swing. I don’t remember you having a problem with this. You may also have balance issues. You just have to keep setting this position and mastering it. It is rotation that should be turning your body and lifting this foot onto the very tip of the toe. Too much lateral may have you a little stuck.
You are missing that you have hit all your life with your arms. You need to be turning way faster with the lower body. I am going as hard as I can. I have done this for years so I am good at it. You are not. If you want power you need to be doing this drill constantly:
DRILL: Listen to Club Swinging: https://ignitiongolf.com/drill-listen-to-club
Keep doing it in practice swing every night for a month straight. Get this club moving out of control fast by using your legs. This will eventually go into your swing and you will get used to moving this fast.
Also, there is more lag and loose wrists. You should be working on this without my having to tell you to do this.
Do this drill constantly too:
https://ignitiongolf.com/lag-release-drill/
July 2, 2013
JohnGermugaSo how do you keep a good lag angle when you turn fast? If I try the powerless arms approach, it seems the centripetal force causes the club to release much sooner then I would like. How do you prevent this? You say your technique is based on physics, but physics will dictate the lag angle will increase, at least somewhat, as you swing around an axis with a hinge.
July 2, 2013
Paul WilsonJohn,
The club is mass. If you turn an axis (body) mass (the club) will lag to its maximum 100% of the time.
LAG means something is trailing behind something else. Why would the club move (mass) unless you moved it? It wouldn’t because it is lagging behind the axis. This lag angle is then compressed into the downswing where the lead arm is parallel to the ground. It is at this point where it is just starting to release a little from this point to the release point approx 2 feet after contact with irons and approx. 3 feet after contact with woods. The club reaches this maximum point due to the forces acting on the mass (mass will always want to swing at its widest point). The widest point is where both arms are fully extended again in the swing. This point is after the ball is hit that is why I do not care about impact.
You keep a good lag angle by manually working on the lag angle into the downswing. I could tell you to turn your arms off. I know you will never do this to the degree you need to to get perfect lag so manually work on the lag. Once you get it, then forget it.
Little kids have perfect lag because they are not strong enough to move the mass. This means they turn their body and the club lags behind the axis. An adult will not do this due to the golf ball sitting in front of them and human nature telling you to hit the object. If you do, you will move the mass before axis thus losing the lag.
I have a whole section on LAG in the red nav bar. Just follow the drills and tips and you should be able to get it.
July 2, 2013
RaymondCHASTELTHE instruction of PAUL WILSON is strictly based on THE laws of physics !PAUL explaiins in everybody’s language what goes on in a perfect golf swing .
Example :the lag angle :this is strictly THE application of THE principle called THE “CONSERVATION OF ANGULAR MOMENTUM ”
If you swing exactly as PAUL tells you to do (Straight left arm .powerless arms ,release ,top of THE backswing position etc.. ) THE lag angle takes care of itself :you cannot influence it except by hinging less THE wrists at THE top or changing THE speed of THE rotation of THE hips .
THE great lesson taught by PAUL IS TO TURN YOUR HIPS THE FASTEST POSSIBLE IN THE DOWNSWING/THROUGHSWING while extending fully your right arm (THE “long “right arm .)
Thank you PAUL for your no nonsense /Practical golf lessons .
N.B. For those who want to know THE Maths/Physics in THE golf Swing ,please read the book of HOMER KELLEY named THE GOLFING MACHINE .HOMER KELLEY was an outstanding engineer working at BOEING during WW 2 .