I push my right kenn in prior to taking the club back and keep it there.
It seems to keep me solid and centered and I no longer fat the ball.
My tendency is to sway off the ball and this stops that, comments?
Pushing the right knee in would be a way to set yourself in motion before taking it back. By keeping it pushing in it is allowing you to keep the weight on the instep of this foot. If the weight is on the instep you can immediately get off of this foot as you come down. If you don’t do this, you are most likely rolling onto the outside of the foot. In doing so, you become flat footed at impact thus hitting some shots fat as I said in the tip. You really should be maintaining this knee not pushing it in. Maybe your pushing it in is putting it in the position it should be in and you are just feeling it being pushed in.
Paul ,There’s one popular drill where you have a ball (Medicine ball,basketball,soccer ball,whatever )between your knees at address.
The drill is to keep it there in the backswing and let the ball fall only at the beginning of the downswing when the knees separate as they should .
If the knees should be in position “naturally “as you show , then this drill is clearly not appropriate .
Then ,I do like Mr Steven SMITH (see above ):I kick in the right knee to initiate the backswing ,as a trigger, and to keep me from swaying .
Is this uncorrect ?
I don’t like dropping the ball on the way down. The gap does not widen this much. It visually widens as you turn back to the camera.
I did a tip on it but can’t find it. Think about it. If you were looking at someone swing facing them you would see the gap in the knees. Let’s say it is 10 inches. As they coil this gap would close to say 5 inches. As they turn back to you it would go back to 10 inches again then it would narrow on the other side as they go to the finish. So there is no squatting, sitting, widening etc. There is YOU turning.
The kneed kick is fine if it is to stay in motion. I think I may do it too. The way he is describing it it sounds like he is forcing it in too much.
Paul ,I agree with you :I did this drill often before ,I don’t do it anymore ,I found it awkward and unnatural:it seems to contradict your teaching to close the gap between the legs (“TOUCH YOUR NECK ,TOUCH YOUR LEGS “).
By the way I do it perfectly now .
I also manage now not to top the ball in the fairway woods anymore :to arrive to this point ,I move more “aggressively” the left hip forward in the downswing and I manage to lift the hands higher than the right shoulder in the backswing :this enables me to have more time coming down and not to force or leverage the club ,just let it swing it’s own .
I saw MARTIN CHUCK ,on REVOLUTION GOLF , giving a “lecture “on how to decrease ball spin when playing the Driver. I didn’t quite get what he was advocating ,he was decreasing ballspin from 6500 RPM to 2500 RPM :it seems to me it has to do with “cupping ‘or “uncupping ” the left wrist .My own ball flight with the driver is pretty high ,and the ball tends to “fall “early ,while i see some of my partners ,with a not to good swing ,have low flights ,the ball going further than mine with more roll when landing .
Can this be mastered and corrected ,and should it be ?
There are many reasons for having too much spin on your ball. Most people chicken wing it. If so you will most likely have too much spin. I had way too much spin with my driver. Once I got properly fitting it was drastically reduced. Now I am around 2400-2600 with driver. I would start with a proper fitting and go from there.
If only I, the student, could remember what you have taught me over the past 4 years. The “human nature” thing keeps coming into my golf swing. Today’s tip again reminded me that in the backswing my weight transfer to the back leg is to the instep of the back foot. I have been transferring the weight, but letting myself put the weight to the outside of the foot and over rotating with my hips. What a simple thing to forget, and yet it makes a huge difference. Play nine holes this evening with good ball striking with a more compact swing – coil and uncoil. Much easier to get off the back foot and get to your follow through position.
Thanks for the reminder. It is the reason I continue to be a member of Ignition Golf.
You should be able to remember everything I teach. This is what separates me from other teachers. Every position I teach gives you feedback so you can remember it. Then you watch your ball to fix your own swing:
spin = wrists
direction = body
contact = spine angle
I think you need to keep recognizing the feedback of each position. Go through them one at a time. Just do these:
Touch Legs
Touch Head
Coil
Hinge
If you can do those the spine angle should take case of itself.
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11 Responses to “Cause and Effect – Knee Position”
September 19, 2014
StevenSmithI push my right kenn in prior to taking the club back and keep it there.
It seems to keep me solid and centered and I no longer fat the ball.
My tendency is to sway off the ball and this stops that, comments?
September 19, 2014
Paul WilsonSteven,
Fat shots are caused because you have too much weight on your back foot at impact:
Fat: https://ignitiongolf.com/fat-shots-cure/
Pushing the right knee in would be a way to set yourself in motion before taking it back. By keeping it pushing in it is allowing you to keep the weight on the instep of this foot. If the weight is on the instep you can immediately get off of this foot as you come down. If you don’t do this, you are most likely rolling onto the outside of the foot. In doing so, you become flat footed at impact thus hitting some shots fat as I said in the tip. You really should be maintaining this knee not pushing it in. Maybe your pushing it in is putting it in the position it should be in and you are just feeling it being pushed in.
Watch:
Flexed Back Knee: https://ignitiongolf.com/backswing-back-knee
How To Feel Stability In The Lower Body (back knee flex) https://ignitiongolf.com/lower-body-stability/
How To Stabilize The Lower Body In The Backswing (belt buckle at ball): https://ignitiongolf.com/stabilize-lower-body/
September 19, 2014
johnhoyleGreetings Coach Thanks
September 19, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,There’s one popular drill where you have a ball (Medicine ball,basketball,soccer ball,whatever )between your knees at address.
The drill is to keep it there in the backswing and let the ball fall only at the beginning of the downswing when the knees separate as they should .
If the knees should be in position “naturally “as you show , then this drill is clearly not appropriate .
Then ,I do like Mr Steven SMITH (see above ):I kick in the right knee to initiate the backswing ,as a trigger, and to keep me from swaying .
Is this uncorrect ?
September 19, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
I don’t like dropping the ball on the way down. The gap does not widen this much. It visually widens as you turn back to the camera.
I did a tip on it but can’t find it. Think about it. If you were looking at someone swing facing them you would see the gap in the knees. Let’s say it is 10 inches. As they coil this gap would close to say 5 inches. As they turn back to you it would go back to 10 inches again then it would narrow on the other side as they go to the finish. So there is no squatting, sitting, widening etc. There is YOU turning.
The kneed kick is fine if it is to stay in motion. I think I may do it too. The way he is describing it it sounds like he is forcing it in too much.
September 20, 2014
RaymondCHASTELPaul ,I agree with you :I did this drill often before ,I don’t do it anymore ,I found it awkward and unnatural:it seems to contradict your teaching to close the gap between the legs (“TOUCH YOUR NECK ,TOUCH YOUR LEGS “).
By the way I do it perfectly now .
I also manage now not to top the ball in the fairway woods anymore :to arrive to this point ,I move more “aggressively” the left hip forward in the downswing and I manage to lift the hands higher than the right shoulder in the backswing :this enables me to have more time coming down and not to force or leverage the club ,just let it swing it’s own .
I saw MARTIN CHUCK ,on REVOLUTION GOLF , giving a “lecture “on how to decrease ball spin when playing the Driver. I didn’t quite get what he was advocating ,he was decreasing ballspin from 6500 RPM to 2500 RPM :it seems to me it has to do with “cupping ‘or “uncupping ” the left wrist .My own ball flight with the driver is pretty high ,and the ball tends to “fall “early ,while i see some of my partners ,with a not to good swing ,have low flights ,the ball going further than mine with more roll when landing .
Can this be mastered and corrected ,and should it be ?
September 22, 2014
Paul WilsonRaymond,
Glad you are getting it.
There are many reasons for having too much spin on your ball. Most people chicken wing it. If so you will most likely have too much spin. I had way too much spin with my driver. Once I got properly fitting it was drastically reduced. Now I am around 2400-2600 with driver. I would start with a proper fitting and go from there.
September 20, 2014
PETERMCMULLENIf only I, the student, could remember what you have taught me over the past 4 years. The “human nature” thing keeps coming into my golf swing. Today’s tip again reminded me that in the backswing my weight transfer to the back leg is to the instep of the back foot. I have been transferring the weight, but letting myself put the weight to the outside of the foot and over rotating with my hips. What a simple thing to forget, and yet it makes a huge difference. Play nine holes this evening with good ball striking with a more compact swing – coil and uncoil. Much easier to get off the back foot and get to your follow through position.
Thanks for the reminder. It is the reason I continue to be a member of Ignition Golf.
September 20, 2014
Paul WilsonPeter,
You should be able to remember everything I teach. This is what separates me from other teachers. Every position I teach gives you feedback so you can remember it. Then you watch your ball to fix your own swing:
spin = wrists
direction = body
contact = spine angle
I think you need to keep recognizing the feedback of each position. Go through them one at a time. Just do these:
Touch Legs
Touch Head
Coil
Hinge
If you can do those the spine angle should take case of itself.
February 4, 2015
NazninKarimHi
Paul, can you please let me know where is the ball position video, and feet position?
Thanks
February 4, 2015
Paul WilsonNaz,
Here you go:
Ball Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/ball-position
Easy Way To Check Ball Position: https://ignitiongolf.com/ball-position-easy-check/
Front Foot Out: https://ignitiongolf.com/foot-position
Back Foot: https://ignitiongolf.com/back-foot-position
Keep in id every setup tip can be found under GOLF TIPS > FULL SWING > SET UP in the red navigation bar.