After The Roll Over Drill

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Paul Wilson

Paul Wilson is the creator of Swing Machine Golf and founder of Ignition Golf. Paul's golf swing technique is based on the Iron Byron swing machine. YouTube Channels: Paul Wilson Golf and Ignition Golf Tips. Please Join me on Google+

14 Responses to “After The Roll Over Drill”

  1. April 29, 2016

    drj0420

    Now that was a great video. Very well explained, simple, and it makes total sense. You are the best !

  2. IanGalloway

    April 29, 2016

    IanGalloway

    Hi (from Australia) Paul, great tip as usual… My question combines the roll over drill and arm extension drill… How “rolled over” should the club/arms/wrists be at the arms fully extended position… I have been trying this at the range and when it works I literally add 10+ mph to my normal swing…!!!.. But still inconsistent…
    Thanks – Ian

  3. April 29, 2016

    MikeVinton

    Thanks Paul. I have been been practicing diligently on this rollover drill/turning/finishing and have had fantastic results. Hitting consistent straight drives and short irons. I have developed a push fade with my long irons that I cannot work out of. I feel confident in y practice swings but cannot get good results in the full swing. It’s in my head now whenever I play. If I use hybrids in place of irons, no problem with the fade. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thank you.
    LEFTY MIKE

  4. I watch these tips and I swear you have been spying on me on the range. Every little tweak, push fade and timing issue that you describe is exactly what I have been doing for years. These videos give me so much motivation to get out and fix my swing. Thanks so much – Matt

  5. Paul,

    I’ve been working on your method for a few years now. I did video lessons with Pete and he helped me clean some things up. Looking at video of my swing, I could see my hips driving and my arms stretching out. It all looked pretty darn good. But, still, I was hitting everything thin and always felt like I was coming over the top. I always stuck with your drills, but for the last 8 months, I felt like I’d run into a wall and couldn’t progress. No matter how I approached the problem (maintaining spine angle, relaxing arms, driving hips harder), I could not get the club head to extend that last inch down and through the ball. This led to me spraying it everywhere.

    One phrase that you use often on the site when people complain about coming over the top is “getting onto your left side too soon.” I have thought about this statement seemingly hundreds of times, but it just never quite clicked with me. I was turning my hips – why wasn’t this working?

    Then a few weeks ago after watching some video, I realized that all the weight was coming off my right foot almost as soon as I started the downswing. My right knee was almost even with my left leg at impact. When I looked at swing sequences of the pros (especially Ernie Els), their legs weren’t anywhere near this position.

    So, I decided to keep my right heel more firmly planted as I initiated the downswing with the hips. It was a much different feeling than I’d experience before. It felt like the hip turn was gradually pulling the right heel off the ground, but the right foot stayed pretty much flat until my belt buckle was back even with the ball. I had a much more solid base for the hips to turn atop. This change did away with any sliding and “power lunge” I was having before. No more over the top either – the club stayed on a decent plane.

    Looking back on the last few years, I feel like I missed an essential foundational piece of your teaching early on. In my mind, if I just turned my hips, then I was doing it correctly. I kept thinking that it was some other part of the swing that was causing my troubles – not releasing the wrists, not maintaining spine angle, losing right knee flex in the back swing, on and on. I feel like I tried everything without ever understanding the hip turn and weight shift connection. And believe me, I’d watched that video several times too!

    Sorry for the long, over-personal post, but as someone who has watched your videos to death, I think you could make the idea of “getting on your left side too soon” a little clearer to people. Would I be correct in re-phrasing it as, “your right heel coming off the ground too soon?” It might save someone a lot of grief and back pain to start learning to turn with both feet firmly planted and then gradually loosen up the right foot until they can do the full touch the legs position. I think you’ve even recommended something similar in a comment you left to someone on the site.

    Before this started to click for me, playing 18 holes felt like a physical and emotional beat down. I was exhausted and my lower back felt terrible. The past few rounds have literally felt like 0% energy expenditure and I’m having a ton fun out there. I may not have the weight shift and turn down perfectly, but it’s really night and day.

    I think people who try to use the hips to drive the swing are at a real risk of spinning out. It would be invaluable for us if you’d explain the details behind “getting on your left side too soon” statement.

    Your site and materials are amazing. Thank you for all that you do for us.

    • April 30, 2016

      Paul Wilson

      James,

      Glad you like the tips. I appreciate the feedback.

      This is the longest reply since the site started. Wow.

      I actually just taught a gentleman lifting his heel to high off of the ground in the downswing. I have a tip coming. In the meantime:

      Impact Back Heel Off Ground: http://ignitiongolf.com/impact-back-foot/

      Whenever I see this I get people to hit 20 shots flat footed in the back foot through impact. This slow it down. Then I get them to not think about it and voila it’s fixed.

      The rotation of your hips should be pulling this foot off of the ground. Just stay flat footed and turn your hips. You will get to maybe 30 degrees and you will start to feel a tightness in your back. To relive this pressure the heel would lift. Most amateurs 90 plus percent are flat footed when they hit the ball ball because they are not turning enough. So although you were lifting too much you are at least in the 10%. Just nee to not lift too soon.

  6. If you have a good swing but still fade or slice, why isn’t it a good idea to make an adjustment to a slightly stronger grip to bring the club to square at impact?

    • Dale,

      Because you cannot have loose wrists with a strong grip. If you did you would hook everything. Now you need another flaw to keep the ball in play.

      Strong Grip Stops The Release: http://ignitiongolf.com/strong-grip-stops-release/

      For the sake of rolling it sooner and doing the roll over a little longer you will fix it for life.

      When people are trying to the roll over and still fade it they are swinging way too hard. Slow down. This will give you more time to roll it. The objective it to roll it early and hook it and get the release working. The objective is not to hit great shots if you are working on this. Slow down to the point you can hook it then speed up the body later for more power.

      If you have a good swing you should master this roll over in about 2 seconds.

      Here you go:

      Still Slicing Even After Rolling?: http://ignitiongolf.com/slicing-after-rolling/

  7. Ok the lower body starts the swing, do my arms follow, no effort or do the get pulled down or dropped?

    • Thomas,

      Your arms are connected to your body. Turn your body and your arms will move. If you are dropping you have 1/4 of a second to hit the ball from the top. If you drop you have already hit the ball. When will you turn? Arms being pulled down. This is sort of the feeling if your body is moving. If your arms were turned off and you turned you body your arms would be pulled down by your body. The correct feeling is nothing in your arms and an unmistakable feeling you hit the ball with your legs and hips.

      Watch:

      It’s An Unmistakable Feeling In Your Legs: http://ignitiongolf.com/unmistakable-feeling-legs/

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